December 3, 2007
OK, I just had my truck "weighed"... Depressing #'s - It's a lot heavier than I thought.
Again, it's a 2008 F350, Single Rear Wheel, Crew Cab, Long Bed...
Rise 6" Suspension, Fox Shox's all around, 37" Tires on 18's... Currently stock gears, but will get 4.56 gears soon. Lots of "heavy" mods - front/rear Winches in Reunel Stainless bumpers, a hoist (500#'s) in the bed (but it will lift 2000#'s).
6,000# - Front Axle
7,000# - Rear Axle
11,500# - GVWR
23,000# - GCWR
The tires and wheels I added (rims are the limiting factor) are #6,840 for an axle (The Pro-comps wheels are rated at 3,420# each) - so that lowers the rear axle rating by 80#. Thus the axles/wheels/tires put the front and back limit at:
So far so good... But... The actual weights (just me in it, but full fuel) are:
Front Axle 5,900
Rear Axle 4,600
Total 10,420 (I know it doesn't add up, but that's what the scale said)
Thus, I'm only 100# away from too much weight in the front.... Ugg... That front bumper/winch is "HEAVY".
I was looking at getting the weekend warrior RKD.... Here's it's specs:
Weekend warrior RKD (conventional)
6395 lb. axle weight * 3 axles = 19,185 lbs
1090 lb Hitch Weight
13,000 GVWR (max trailer)
7,485 Empty weight (GVWR - Payload)
11,500 Real GVWR - so it doesn't go over combined weight
4,000 Real payload
* 15% tongue weight (of 11,500) = 1,725
* 12.5% tonge weight (of 11.500) = 1,438
* 10% tongue weight (of 11,500) = 1,150 <- what I need to shoot for - load the trailer's "rear end".
Yamaha Grizzly's - 600lbs each * 2 = 1,400 lbs
Water (150 gallons) = 1,300 lbs
2,700 For sure (added weight) - round to 3,000 (extra options in the trailer)
that leaves 1,000 for clothes/food/etc (assuming no more weight is put on the front axle in the process) - actually the trailer "should" - "unload" the front axle, since it's a conventional, not 5th wheel.
Here's what I was planning on doing to the truck to "help out" (unfortunately all will increase it's weight "some") - but not drastically - 100lbs or so...
* Re gear to 4.56's - will fix the tires + some extra torque for towing
* New intake/exhaust (possibly a programmer too) - get a hundred or so more HP/torque
* Front and rear air bags - help the leafs and coils out - so it stays perfectly level no matter what
- currently it's about 2" low in the back, the front coil bag will raise the front an inch, and the rear bags should get me 3" in the back to bring it perfectly level
* Try to get bigger/improved brakes (still need to fit inside 18" wheels). I may have to move up to 20" wheels if I have to - just so bigger brakes will fit.
* Possibly get an exhaust brake installed when they come out with them for the 08's.
Any ideas for other ways to improve it? - will this be "safe"?